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Predestination v's Free will

The entire debate is symbolised in the  lovers VI Explanation, or even my parliment analagy.

Pitza box image

Meditating on the bed (something like evening of oct 6th 09) when i sudenly get this image of a women tripping up some stepps, carying a pile of pitza boxes. i didn't think much of it, other then it was an impressive image, a glimse/didn't last more then a second, and was followed by other seemingly unrelated images i didn't remember much.

Now couple of days later. i was advertising my site. (having had to put up with some anoying jesus extreamists) and i had touched on predestination/free will inter alia. and was back to minding my own business. when this women carying 3 deep pan pitza boxes walked by. and i hear her squeek the sextree, to her group.

this was when i noticed her, and the boxes. and while she didn't trip up (well not physically at least! i did wonder about the image, on hand).

ok i don't know this women, nothings come of it, i haven't even spoken to her, though she was cute, and yeah i just list it as an example of symbolism. as its where how the entire debate of freewill/predstination comes in

now i've had ones invovling painted penisis before (clairvoyance) while working, showing up in books the next day, when i walked into town. and dreams of the women sitting on my lap, at kerang, before going outside, coming in, and me having to pull my finger out, and while this lot really hasn't worked out. one has to wounder how it works> and if its just sort term, or long term, and what the value of choice is! ok the entire thing is crap, i hate hate the lot, though the paintd penis one, threw me the most. as it was two seperate images, showing up in a book side by side, and i'd never seen it before (and no people were invovled) so yes, it gave me material to write about i guess, but other then that... i have to wounder what the point of it all was, or rather how the f**k does this lot work!

as the only thing i've seen is people being screwed over in a bad way, me included, and if their was any plan, its gone to rats**t as i'm sure i wanted a life with money, and stuff like that, and i have none at all. so yeah this games crap, god sucks, and well people are a waste of time, inter alia bon sur! as i'm sick of these games, and want to be told everything instead, imeditatly, as i'm sure those b*stards are fobbing me off, and this isn't the extent of my power at all, i want to be humoured, i want to see money again, lots of it... as this world is crap without it... pleasure, temptation, fun this is what i seek, not f**king christians making my life a mysery and hell, as they are so stupid at the best of times but i digress. none of the above is proof of predestination. as its too short term,though longer periods with dreams, make you wounder about destiny and you like, perhaps pre-agreed ideas? though in truth it could all be short term, yet i wounder how they know someone _is_ going to do that, as their is freedom of choice, and sometimes your forcing yourself to go through with it (or at least you think you are) which is the problem with choice, is it you, or them... and to what extent do you have control? as you look to instinct, and wounder why...

First of all this is where unified (fact) theory comes in, (not really a theory, but we seem to have a word missing from the english languge, one which describes what something isn't, believe it or not, we can't find one) and more importantly proof by exception. Then further opening the whole can of worms of precognitive dreams,  and incorporate ideas like telepathy, spiritual communication and perhaps even my overly verbose political analogy with neo and me likening it to the uk parliament. There's a cost to experimenting with the mind.

Though the main one is people refusing to discuss it more openly, which kind of sends you "to hell", or at least it often feels that way.

So which is it? Can you change an outcome, before the end...

 Glad you ask, but I keep changing my mind, (or at least I think I do) once i always laughed the other off. Come on destiny please, what do you take me for? Then I delved into the psychic side, and took a risk, and begin practacing, and learning the skills. Found out what lovers VI, really meant as well as art XIV and "vitirol". It's as bad as the any, ttrying to explain to the other ant, what the finger was which moved him or her onto the tree.

 Now after being a smart arse, and moving beyond theory to "proof by exception" and knowing about the differences in the lovers VI, trust me when you start listening to what people say, strangers, and get precognative dreams, auras and even well "coincidences" brewing. your going to be in for a whole world of trouble, as it comes crashing in around your ears, and you ahve to learn to rebuild, from scratch again.

 So what is it with  our upper and lower selves. Communication flows both ways, or so it doth seem.  It's got me wondering how much control does the lower conscious self actually have. Or does it do what the "lords" tell it, and well you forget the drea, and do it anyway. Dangerous trap, but surely you decide where you go, and what to say. Certainly you can overide instinct, and present some resistence, assert some control, but how much is that just you being known, logic is predictable, and so is love.

 Is it all worked out ahead of schedule? some things are, or at least they appear to be negotiated in advance, but can you actually change the outcome, or only delay it if at all. Do you even have and/or maintain any responsibility for it? Lets face it, two people competing in a race, we both decide to win, surely it goes to the one who tried the hardest, ergo its all down to the effort on the ground, on the tread mill. We were conditioned for it, or choose what we wanted, needed.  then my suspicians set in.

Who really makes the deals, in the backrooms, and give the nod at when things proceed, the palms are greesed, as off you sleep, vitirol, waits for no man or beast...

It's clear if you don't try, you never do get anything, no risk no gain, as the old saying goes. but what if everyone listens to instinct, and responds accordingly. That higher self seems to shift on it's own accord, but did it shift because You as an individual planted the seed, and spoke, did a good job, or because of something else more profound. The safe choice is to work at it, and bring it about. trust your instinct and when your happy, and it's not forced it gets better

Explanations, examples of how you change your mind.

Ignorance is bliss, then you dealve beneath the ice to see what's there. Woe you go, fragment your mind, and tell yourself what your going to do, have dreams which then contain events, from strangers, coincidences which spark controversy, to the point you start activly trying to bring completion to a plan, and then wait, you just listen in the real world, to what they say, and observe how they react in realtime.  Then it comes down to a question of timing, can i shift it on, or do I have to wait it out, and how much really is enough? really... if they want it, they can have it. If not they close ranks, ergo reactions change when the point has been made. Question is what's the point?

Back to control

Yet still how much control do the both parts have. Their acting independently, and yet together. Howeer how much we listen either way, is another issue. You can ask and you can demand, but is it passed on, what is need, what is want. To dare, to know, to will and be silent as the old maxim goes. Theres more to that then you realise it, build it and they shall come, but speak out, and the lower house will over react, in fear, and mess it up. ergo say nothing and let the other house draw them in, the other brother, the other lover, the child is born, in knowlege of self.

People steal thing for self, yet no matter how good an idea, you will never be able to shift it, especially if it's really good. Do they refuse to listen, because it's yours to own. The rest is infantile and anything goes, ergo they fight over it like a lost toy. Strange, how the really fundermental things, are struwn around and found in plain sight. you can open your eyes, but you have to really make a concerted effort, and then you have a blind spot, if your not concentrating.. strange how the mind works, is it not?

 and so your dreams condition you to respond in kind. You might forget the dream, not remember it, but your actions appear largely driven from this information. The smart ones are, and then theres the other dreams, the lucid ones you control.. perhaps some people are clumbsy, but then what can you do... The ground work is laid in knowlege, opportunity knocks, only for those who can understand the differences, and build between the lines. Question is what are those lines, and how far can they be beant, nothings impossible unless you set your mind to close off avenues of escape, you define your own limits, ergo it's a waste of time, even arguing about it.

Paradox, demands no rules, nothings impossible for existence to propogate, ergo logic is flawed, but without it we are useless, ergo we need belief, which contradicts our very openess, for god is in denial, while the beast accepts it for what it is, infinity and choice...

Therefore maybe what you try and do, is beyond your conscious control. Most people regurgitate what their told to. They don't think, yet those who do might limit themselves beyond measure for resistence breaks the mind, and they suffer in return, perhaps they all do. only the devil seems to forgive, understand the contradictions to the point of not caring, love is love, and well who cares wins, or is that dares to stand their ground, and complete the task, solutions matter, and well isn't that what we were designed for, to give something back, anyone stopping that surely is hindering the walk on easy street

Check out the star XVII for a hint, and the method of execution

  Your thought/fears/feeling are being driven from above, or so you say.. Of course you can assert yourself, though some lines crossed can never be taken back, once you know, your in the know ;) *nudge, nudge, wink, wink* but is this mearly a transparent act of self denial, or the other assertive arrogance. (the lower house thinks it knows *giggle* or does the higher house make it up as it goes along, and listen to reason. Go on prove, it, dare you.. double dare, reverse psychology, and the cards tumble ever outwards, as the fool grows ever inward, and the beard is grown.

Why did it start, open the box, pandora, go on let it out.. please said the devil, apple for snow white?

I stumbles on precognitive dreams around the age of 28. when i tried to listen, pay attention and after gathering any evidence to rule out body language. Even just to prove to myself that something else was going on, beyond self hypnosis, and try and limit the field. I came to understand something. Ignorance is indeed bliss. Now overly sensitive to what's happening at a distant, so much give and take. It's hard to see and identify is it my own  fears, or is it other peoples, or rather I know i'm picking up on others hardships feelings, just to what extent, and even what their perspective take is.

It's like trying to view it through rose tinted spectacles only in reverse. you tend to over react, which is typical of the lower house. (parliament)

Would I have it any other way? or would I go back to selifish denial?  some of the visions are cool.

Discrimination is what gets you, you fall foul off, if we had bothered to teach it and understand it, then it wouldnt have mattered, it would be easy to work out, only some moron forgot to speak their mind. Ket me guess someone over reacted, and said nope i'm going to say nothing, now we're on easy streak, bit like big businesses. they close their doors, no one communicates, and the rot begins, selifish desire, propoganda, and you loose your way, belief is meaningless, its the knowing which is key, you only know by rulling the other out. Then it's trickier to circumnavigate, and well lets face it. The only thing which is stopping me, is my refusual to say silent.

If I did what the rest did, lied and stayed the same, I could bluff it,and use you all, but it seems a high price to pay, o become like them. So I take the moral high ground, and suffer for it, driven from society which fears it's own reflection and sent to hell, on my own terms, for at least I lived, and was myself. The price for absolution was way too high, pretend it doesn't exist, it doesn't matter and that we know, yeah right, only a fool takes that stance. Anythings possible, and everything to play with, that's the point!

Bridge the gap and we could have ended this conflict long ago. Just by taking belief outside, and rulling that those who believe, are morons while those who dont know better, much better. learn quick, with an open mind. Its the utmost of arrogance to think you have the right to demand control, or subserviance of another human being, man or beast bows to no one, you operate together in companionship and need. Not the other way round.

Have you noticed what strangers say or do?

some people get luckier then others, find the right contacts. others have to fight tough and nail for it. It's more a conscious blending of desire, knowing, wanting, daring and perhaps staying absolutely silent on the issue at hand. certain combinations are obvious to pull off. Others are less obvious but some people naturally gravitate to them and it becomes second nature, almost instinct. you know what's going to work

people say and do the strangest things, some people attract their fair share of trouble, and out the mouth of babes. They identify too much to what's not been said, else theory would dictate your body language/clothes matters. when people diverge from that and start saying specifics depending on your state of mind, then you have to worry, or know. 

Your choices are they artificial

I have three job offers, which do I take? I go for instinct, your never going to go for the others, it feels right. is that a logical conscious choice, or are you just responding to another level. in which case which part has the most control. logic in theory means that you can reason out your alternatives, based on facts. Though people don't respond like that, they use instinct, further people read, and hear what they want to hear. Selective versioning of the truth. you get given what you need.

Now are these plans routine/short term, or fit a lifetime?

three year plan, it ends in tears, or at least enough to give me security to this point, but have I calculated that course/that path based on a conscious previous choice. perhaps we have many life paths, or rather a plan is only as good as first contact with the enemy, so we have to adjust at will. Ergo Its only accurate for a specific time plan, then we get a choice between two alternative lives/futures destinations and we have to go with one, yet again is that logical or responding to some more innate instinctual desire.

I had a choice

Despite being increasingly susceptible to sensations, and picking up on things, perhaps energy waves, I still decide which words to write, and even a subtle word can change the meaning. Is that enough to change the outcome, or mealy another act of self denial? Do people really look that close, or is mealy in the general vicinity accurate enough to make what ever you want come true. Business/jobs will come before you run out.

So many times, where the job/contract has previous come in on time, at the eleventh hour, just because your believed. its like the devil card XV (which perhaps should be renamed god in this world) for as it stands you often have to "sell your soul to god" and present a mask to get ahead, unless you put enough into the star XVII to make it happen. There's a point of no return where the balance shifts.

So was that your strength of will, refusal to surrender which made them adapt, or like the dreams, and my original experiences what will be will always will be. For what was impossible then, is not now. Ergo you couldn't have done it any other way. Yet you can, so it's the chicken and the egg.

How sound is the plan/strategy

I know I can sort things out sooner, pay attention to the warnings, fix thing early. which means it goes so much easier, delay it and perhaps the situations change to force you to see it out.  Shows some conscious level of control, but if your working to a plan, you have to wonder if your going to face it on ever counter. The other issue is, did I program the plan into my subconious mind to act on my behalf, or has it always been like that.

There's more then one way to skin a rat

I could have met different people, and gone a different way, but would I have come to the same point. How much detail is in a plan, in a life, and how specific is it. What's the need/want/motive or even the why. some people are naturally good at different things. ergo they are going to end up there no matter what, perhaps driven to change once something's been and gone, mastered, things rarely stay the same from here on in.  So there you have it, which is it?

A delicate balance in adjustment VII

I've bridged the gap, and can see it for what it is (sort of) it's like i only have so much say in that part of my mind/life,  an almost symbiotic synergy exists, but if your not in love with yourself it all goes to ratshit pretty fast, then again, perhaps that's what's needed for you to gain/learn what you needed, bit like the film pursuit of happiness your tought what and when, no matter how. Resistance is futile, or leads to object stress, suffering as the "lay lines" force you back on track. sometimes you have more rope to play with, while the rest feels more forceful.

guidance yet at times it feels like pressure or rather orders from up above. crushing arms, pleasure, and voices/whispers can be very specific, but not always. almost like blackmail. the original play, was detailed but please, surely that's a figment, and can't be proved. So I ignore the sensations and go i'm free, yet now I'm left hoping it's the other, I liked that plan, ergo can I bring it about or do I have to trust.. an uneasy alliance tag team match up, which depends largely in how co-operative the world is, and how it's structured.

competition pools. mayday distress calls 

how we attracted to one another, drawn together, right people showing at right time, predetermined, or are we broadcasting internally liek radio, and sometimes someone happens to know, we exchange codes, ideals, theories and go we shall work together, words largely matter, and your actions seem to do nothing to put people off, yet at other times, no force in the world will sway them. so can you actually change anyone's mind. How laid back, and how forceful should we be?

I've even read theories on soul groups/reincarnation where your all competing against each other, have hid deals, perhaps working to the same cause, who know past friends, aquentancies, but can you make new ones? surely you can, surely its more biological, and well who are you to say what i can't and can do. I' a free man, trying to make the world a better place, or rather get ahead using my skills, tempting us to open up, and i've ruined the plan, thus proving freewill never happens.  (a deliberate slight) as how will they respond...

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